Joshua: yo yo yo. um do you think arie is gonna be a bachelor? or do you think he's over it?
me: I think they would never pick Ari over Sean or previously reported Roberto
Joshua: oh right
sean
me: Ari's not America's kinda guy - his love for Em burned too deep
Joshua: i forgot
hahahaha
me: and Sean is just such a big red, muscley doofus that he has Bachelor written all over him
Joshua: so so so true
although i don't know how he's still going to find time to be dave read while he's romancing all those ladies
me: Ya! it will be very diffficult but at least he'll get a good play out of it. Although Bekah Brunstetter already wrote the bachelor play and it was awesome
But enough about playwrights - even if they were contestants - back to Em and Jef
Joshua: i don't know -- i don't see it between the two of them
me: I think you are right that as soon as she talked him into meeting Ricki it was over
But it can't be denied that Em made this decision with her head not with her heart or um, vajayjay
Joshua: clearly.
i think it was her vajayjay that was crying so hard when she had to let arie go
me: She should have at least done it with him in the fantasy suite when she had the chance, now she's always going to be thinking about what it would have been like
BUT I do think she and Jef, even though they don't seem right for eachother at all, might have longevity
Joshua: hahaha yup
but i think that might just come from mormon determination than anything else
me: Well ya, Jef I believe, is a man of his word
And I kinda thought I saw a little 'what have I done' on his face when they were watching that proposal
but he's in it now and he'll stick with it
Joshua: yeah i feel like they had the option of just continuing to date, right?
that's just not the kind of ending america wants
me: right and I think there are $ incentives to get engaged, be engaged at after the final rose and then get married. NOT that I think Jef did it for the money - lets not forget he's a mormon millionaire
Both my sis and my bf, Liana equated this with an arranged marriage where love will grow over time, and I think that could be very true
Joshua: oh that's actually a good analogy
it's like we're in ancient china
they have been selected for good breeding and financial security
and offspring
em wants to MULTIPLY
me: yesterday!
Joshua: and who's better suited to that than jef?
me: Also Jef is MOVING to Charlotte so he doesn't uproot Ricki - Ari wouldn't have done that
I mean its a little nuts to me that Jef is doing that since he has a company to run and Em does pretty much nothing
Joshua: yeah but she's obviously gonna wear ALL the pants in that marriage
me: I dont know - he seems so much smarter than she is
I have to say, one of the most interesting Bach finales - Can we talk about what a man Ari was during that break-up
Joshua: RIGHT?
me: That made me like him more
Joshua: when he was like, "i'm not gonna give you the goodbye you want"...
me: it was f'in awesome
Joshua: ...i stodd and cheered
i also stood
me: more realness than we usually get to see on this show
Joshua: but oh my gosh, watching him make that love potion knowing what was about to happen...
...that was torture
me: that was EVIL, ABC, EVIL
Joshua: every single thing he said about them being in love with each other and her parents being his in-laws made me want to climb to the top of something tall and just jump off it
me: And I think he was totally blindsided way more than the guys who just pretend to be blindsided. I mean last week she told him he was the light at the end of the tunnel
Joshua: well yeah
she's gotta take a lot of the blame for that
me: I think you are right and it all came down to Jef talking her into meeting Ricki
Joshua: it totally did
me: I think after that she was done and was like, I dont wanna have to make a hard decision - this guy is great with my kid, he'll be a good father - im done, lets get married
Joshua: exactly...
which i guess is respectable
that studio audience was so much more into jef than arie
me: Another reason I dont think Arie will be the Bach.
Joshua: they LOVED sean in the men tell all, tho
me: I think she made the right choice, even tho I think her feelings are stronger for Arie
Oh my god, I do not get the Sean thing - but he's America's Dream guy I guess - weird
Joshua: yeah that's exactly it -- he's a ken doll
me: boring and plastic
Joshua: if he becomes the bachelor, his season will be PAINFUL to watch
me: Ugh, Asexual Bachelor
super weird
Joshua: hahaha right?
me: lets hope they stick with Roberto
Joshua: every single girl will be asking in her confessional "i just don't know if we're connecting"
me: Its so unusual to have really liked both the guys in the final two this season. On Sean's season it will be like -
"He never kisses me with his mouth open and he keeps pranking me"
Joshua: he's gonna ask the girls if they'll accept the rose and they'll politely decline
me: hahaha
Joshua: there will only be one episode
me: Sean talking to a stuffed animal
Joshua: i still think that was his room
no one clarified it
me: I THINK IT WAS HIS ROOM TOO!!! back to Em and Jef - he's taking her to Africa to do charity work, and I guarantee you over the course of their relationship she will become a better dresser
Joshua: definitely
me: which is another form of charity work - so good job Jef!
Joshua: yeah now that i'm thinking about it, i think they probably will make it
it'll be an intensely boring yet entirely consistent marriage
which is exactly what i think em wants
me: Ya but not with someone like Sean, consistent and cool
with someone she feels like is better than her
which Jef is
Joshua: but can also shoot guns
me: Well, Emily might have taught America a good lesson:
GIRLS - pick the guy who is going to be a good husband and father, wont cheat on you, has great style and cares about the world at large. Someday, you'll forget about that guy who pinned you against the wall in Prague - but you can still think about it when you masturbate
Joshua: HAHAHAHAHAHA
can that be a lesson for gay men too? because...
yeah, this convo has actually put me on team jef
me: Yes, It's a lesson for EVERYONE! Thanks Bachelorette!
Joshua: it seems like he knows what it means to have to go after a girl
which is a skill some of them (sean) have never had to practice
so i think if he's the bachelor it will just reinforce the idea that he's naturally impressive and that women will just come to him and that he doesn't have to do any work
me: Ugh, here's hoping these recaps aren't about Sean next season - but maybe then we can find a way to watch in the same place
Joshua: we'll need to hold each other and cry -- so yes
me: Can't wait!

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